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HealthCare Reform: AP Report, 2% Likely to Sign-up For Public Option

Update 10:22pm: Based on the comment section here is an additional post from
The Progressive Capitalist:   Affordable Health Care For America Act?  With video
responses from the Republican Leadership, Senator Cornyn and Rep. John Boehner,
the House Minorty Leader
 
Tomorrow: The Hidden Taxes
HealthCare Reform: AP Report, 2% Likely to Sign-up For Public Option

     I went to bed Saturday night after having a very enjoyable, fun, Halloween- Hallow e'en for purists, All Hallowed Evening...and there was naught a fright in the cul-de-sac. The parents pulled their chairs, BBQs, fire pit, into the blocked off cul-de-sac to enjoy some neighborly camaraderie. All of the children and teenagers enjoyed running around free, costumed to pillage candy from the families in our community. This is but one example of our little cul-de-sac coming together and ensuring that not only can we have fun but keep our friends and children close by and safe.

     All of that enjoyment was abruptly brought to an end Sunday morning where I discovered a frightening sojourn into fantastical story telling by, none other than, the government run Associated Press (AP). I ran screaming into the same cul-de-sac that just 8 hours ago provided merriment and camaraderie. My world came crashing down on my head- oh my aching head.

     Saturday morning I put forth my belief that the Obama Administration is misleading the people of the United States. While I took them to task for their limited use of the truth with regard to jobs created (or in their vernacular: jobs saved) and in its creative numbers that is the GDP. I even included the bragging of White House Advisor (Media Czarina) Anita Dunn claiming that the Obama for President Campaign controlled the media, the message, and the messenger. I shudder when I think of the Obama Administration using Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals as a playbook to fool the American people; the really sad part is that most are taking the bait, hook, line and sinker.

     Then, then, to add salt to the wound I read the front page of the San Diego Union Tribune (it used to be a fairly conservative paper- comparatively speaking). This is the headline that grabbed my attention (article is below in its entirety) "Few seen using health bills public option."

     The media onslaught of falsehoods and obfuscation has begun. The liberal media is going to thrown down the gauntlet to engender greater support for a policy that is doomed to failure. That failure may not be the insurance itself, but rather in that it will further erode the financial strength of the United States. I have not had a chance to read the actual study but there are a few clues as to its potential for failure. There are at least two factors in the article that are pointed out, more as a side note than as facts that would point to its failure Here are the nuggets:

    • The budget office said "a less healthy pool of enrollees" would probably be attracted to the public option, drawn by the prospect of looser rules on access to specialists and medical services.
    • As a result, premiums in the public plan would be higher than the average for private plans. That could nudge healthy middle-class workers and their families to sign up for private plans.
                                                                                          

     The analysis is flawed, and this is pointed out by the "journalist." The public option will cost more for those who enroll. This will doom it in the first place. What it ultimately will create is an opportunity for the government to absorb the costs. Recall, that the plans operated by the government are not required to make a profit for its shareholders (taxpayers). That means that in order to keep the costs down the government will have to eat losses, naturally, which will cause further deficit spending. There is nothing in the 1990 page legislation that will lower costs. The second major flaw that I see is that the reporter merely speaks of employees and the users/insured. There seems to be no mention of the actions of employers.

     There is brief mention and it is given short shrift:

For the same reason, employer groups also remain wary. Big companies don't
want to lose control of their health care budgets and instead have the
government send them a tax bill.

     Of course, those evil businesses are wary. They don't wish to lose control. The fact is that the plan as proposed will make it far more likely that employers will no longer offer private health. It is more likely that instead of offering plans in which the employer must pay the costs of health insurance they will push employees into the government plan and pay the "fine" (read: taxes). Any entity that is in business to make money (in the parlance of the Obama Administration and the Democratic Party making profits is evil- insurers make "obscene profits" equal to 2% of revenues, outrageous!) makes decisions based on cost/benefit to the business. CEO's answer to shareholders, basic Econ 101- this basic notion is something virtually every Democrat either ignores or is ignorant of.

     I don't buy this analysis one bit. The very fact that everything that has gone on with the legislation in both the Senate and House- behind closed doors, not allowing Republican in put (amendments) and the threats of the nuclear option. The nuclear option in this case is pushing the legislation through the Senate using the process of reconciliation, which requires the less than 60 votes (filibuster) to pass. This is but one example of the shenanigans that the Democrats are using to deceptively get Health Care Reform at any cost. Add that to the recent attempt to buy off Doctors by passing increased reimbursements to Dr.s, $247 Billion taken out of the legislation to lower the overall HealthCare Reform cost:

a stand-alone, unfunded bill on the Senate floor this week that would

hand doctors $247 billion more than they would otherwise get for their

Medicare services over the next 10 years.

     This was, by far, the greatest example of Democrats using anything they can in order to get support for a huge government spending program that will become another entitlement. Entitlement spending has already reached the greatest portion of spending; spending which has caused the deficit to spiral to depths never seen as a percentage of our GDP. Social Security and Medicare are well onto the path of bankrupting this nation. Our children's grandchildren will pay for those two entitlements for decades, if not centuries. They are a Ponzi scheme, doomed to crumble in the face of taxpayers. As the number of those contributing will continue to dwindle while those receiving benefits increase.

     I believe that the Administration and Democrats are deliberately trying to singlehandedly destroy our capitalistic economy. The big question is: To What End? The TARP was an excuse to not only further regulate our financial institutions but to essentially take them over- the "Pay Czar" has cut pay for employees at those institutions and others have threatened to manage pay for more businesses.

     Is that the role of our Government? Should our Government dictate employee compensation? The stimulus, that had to be passed not today but yesterday or the country was doomed, was used to put the Government in charge of Detroit- I applaud Ford for resisting- and put their political lackeys in charge. Should our Government be the largest shareholder of our manufacturing businesses? Where does it stop? Will Big Oil be far behind? What about food producers? Shouldn't the Government take over this area of capitalism to ensure that food is on the table? What about Cable Companies? Shouldn't every home have cable in their home? Access to the internet (that is already on the table with the fallaciously named The Internet Freedom Act 2009, thank you Senator McCain for throwing open and free markets under the bus). The Military Industrial Complex? A car in every garage, a TV and Computer in every living room, Health Insurance, Retirement guarantees, Food on the Table, and on and on the list grows...

 Reconciliation

A Senate Rule Requiring Simple Majority

 Definition according to Wikipedia:

Reconciliation is a legislative process of the United States Senate intended to allow a contentious budget bill to be considered without being subject to filibuster. Because reconciliation limits debate and amendment, the process empowers the majority party. Reconciliation also applies in the United States House of Representatives, but since the House regularly passes rules that constrain debate and amendment, the reconciliation process represented less of a change in that body.

A reconciliation instruction (Budget Reconciliation) is a provision in a budget resolution directing one or more committees to submit legislation changing existing law in order to bring spending, revenues, or the debt-limit into conformity with the budget resolution. The instructions specify the committees to which they apply, indicate the appropriate dollar changes to be achieved, and usually provide a deadline by which the legislation is to be reported or submitted.[1]

A reconciliation bill is one containing changes in law recommended pursuant to reconciliation instructions in a budget resolution. If the instructions pertain to only one committee in a chamber, that committee reports the reconciliation bill. If the instructions pertain to more than one committee, the House Budget Committee reports an omnibus reconciliation bill, but it may not make substantive changes in the recommendations of the other committees.[2]

      Reconciliation is typically used in the budget process and has never been used in the creation of a huge, new entitlement, new government program. Reconciliation is the nuclear option and may be the only way for Democrats and the president to pass this "HealthCare Reform." I know there are others who feel as I do, I am not going to take this lying down. Being bullied by and lied to by Democrats is not going to engender much faith in President Obama or the Democrats, namely Pelosi/Reid/Hoyer et al (the Democratic leadership and its lock in step followers).Is it any wonder that Congress' popularity not only wanes but is resulting in the potential for Republican surges in election- see McDonnell in the Virginia's governor’s race and NY's 23rd District special election.

Congressional Job Approval (RealClear Politics Polling)

Poll

Date

Approve

Disapprove

Spread

RCP Average

10/1 - 10/25

24.8

66.4

-41.6

NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl

10/22 - 10/25

24

65

-41

FOX News

10/13 - 10/14

24

66

-42

CBS News

10/05 - 10/08

22

65

-43

Associated Press/GfK

10/01 - 10/05

33

64

-31

Gallup

10/01 - 10/04

21

72

-51

More Polling Data | Chart | News

Virginia Governor - McDonnell vs. Deeds

Polling Data

Poll

Date

Sample

McDonnell (R)

Deeds (D)

Spread

RCP Average

10/21 - 10/29

--

54.4

41.0

McDonnell +13.4

Times-Dispatch/MD

10/28 - 10/29

625 LV

53

41

McDonnell +12

Rasmussen Reports

10/27 - 10/27

1000 LV

54

41

McDonnell +13

Daily Kos/R2000

10/26 - 10/28

600 LV

54

44

McDonnell +10

Suffolk University

10/26 - 10/28

400 LV

54

40

McDonnell +14

Roanoke College

10/21 - 10/27

569 LV

53

36

McDonnell +17

SurveyUSA

10/25 - 10/26

502 LV

58

41

McDonnell +17

Washington Post

10/22 - 10/25

1206 LV

55

44

McDonnell +11

See All Virginia Governor - McDonnell vs. Deeds Polling Data

(After October 18 partisan affiliated polls will not be added to Election 2009 RCP Poll Averages.)

New York 23rd District - Special Election

Polling Data

Poll

Date

Sample

Hoffman (C)

Owens (D)

Scozzafava (R)

Spread

Siena

10/27 - 10/29

700 LV

35

36

20

Owens +1

Daily Kos/R2000

10/26 - 10/28

600 LV

32

33

21

Owens +1

Minuteman/Neighborhood (R)

10/25 - 10/26

366 LV

34

29

14

Hoffman +5

CFG/Basswood Research (R)

10/24 - 10/25

300 LV

31

27

20

Hoffman +4

Daily Kos/R2000

10/19 - 10/21

600 LV

23

35

30

Owens +5

Siena

10/11 - 10/13

617 LV

23

33

29

Owens +4

Siena

9/27 - 9/29

622 LV

16

28

35

Scozzafava +7

CFG/Basswood Research (R)

9/17 - 9/17

300 LV

17

17

20

Scozzafava +3

McLaughlin (R)

8/25 - 8/26

300 LV

16

17

26

Scozzafava +9

     The elections of November 2009 are a harbinger of better things to come: 2010 House and Senate Races. The supposed demise of Conservatism (Ronald Reagan's influence has waned, according to many) is premature. Quite to the contrary, big ‘C’ conservatism is enjoying a surge, much to the chagrin of Democrats and the government controlled MSM. I wanted to show the Gallup poll bar graph showing the surge in those who describe themselve sin political terms. "How would you describe your political views--[very conservative, conservative, moderate, liberal, (or) very liberal. The graph is shocking in that the most recent poll shows that those considering themselves conservative has surged from 2008 (37%- Conservatives in a tie with Moderates) to 2009 (40%- Conservatives while Moderates has dropped to 35%). Those describing themselves as liberal has remained steady between 19-22% since 1992 (low of 16% to a high of 22%- coincidentally in 2007/2008 the arrival of BHO). The Gallup Poll is here.
     You will never see this poll's results on CNN, MSNBC, NPR, Time and certainly not in the AP! Why is it that those who are the most vocal in their political views and currently are in full control, for all intents and purposes, the four houses of the United States government- the Legislature Branch (Congress), the Executive Branch (the White House), the Judicial Branch (Supreme Court and lower courts- I am including the Administration's picks for SCOTUS and others replacing conservative judges with activist judges) and the Fourth Estate (Main Stream Media).
 
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San Diego Union Tribune:
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Nonpartisan analysts estimate 2% would sign up
By Ricard Alonso-Zaldivar
 
What's all the fuss about? After all the noise over Democrats' push for a government insurance plan to compete with private carriers, coverage numbers are finally in: Two percent. That's the estimated share of Americans younger than 65 who would sign up for the public option plan under the health care bill that Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, is steering toward House approval.

The underwhelming statistic is raising questions about whether the government plan will be the iron-fisted competitor that private insurers warn will shut them down or a niche operator that becomes a haven for patients with health insurance horror stories.

Some experts are wondering if lawmakers have wasted too much time arguing about the public plan, giving shod shrift to basics such as ensuring that new coverage will be affordable.

"The public option is a significant issue, but its place in the debate is completely out of proportion to its actual importance to consumers," said Drew Altman, president of the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation. "It has sucked all the oxygen out of the room and diverted attention from bread-and-butter consumer issues,

Insurers not buying budget office view

such as affordable coverage and comprehensive beneilts." The Democratic health care bills would extend coverage to the uninsured by providing government help with premiums and prohibiting insurers from excluding people in poor health or charging them more.

But to keep from piling more on the federal delicit, most of the uninsured will have to wait until 2013 for help.

Even then, many will have to pay a signilicant share of their own health care costs.

The latest look at the public option comes from the Congressional Budget Office, the nonpartisan economic analysts for lawmakers.

It found that the scaled-back government plan in the House bill wouldn't overtake private health insurance. To the contrary, it might help the insurers a little.

The budget office estimated that about 6 million people would sign up for the public option in 2019, when the House bill is fully phased in.

That represents about 2 percent of a total of 282 million Americans younger than 65. (Older people are covered through Medicare.) The overwhelming majority of the population would remain in private health insurance plans sponsored by employers. Others, mainly low-income people, would be covered through an expanded Medicaid program.

To be fair, most people would not have access to the new public plan.

Under the House bill, it would be offered through new insurance exchanges open only to those who buy coverage on their own or work for small companies. Yet even within that pool of 30 million people, only 1 in 5 would take the public option.

Who's likely to sign up? The budget office said "a less healthy pool of enrollees" would probably be attracted to the public option, drawn by the prospect of looser rules on access to specialists and medical services.

As a result, premiums in the public plan would be higher than the average for private plans. That could nudge heakhy middle-class workers and their families to sign up for private plans.

"'lle concem was that the public option would destabilize the bulk of private insurance, but in fact what Congress has fashioned is very targeted," said economist Karen Davis, president of the Commonwealth Fund. "It's not going to be taking away the insurance industry's core business." It's unclear whether there are enough votes in the Senate for a public plan. The version that Majority Irader Han·y Reid, D-Nev., has offered would let states opt out, probably leaving a smaller plan than the House would want.

Insurers aren't buying the budget office analysis. Asked if it might soften that opposition, industry spokesman Robert Zirkelbach of America's Health Insurance Plans responded with a curt "No." While a government plan might start out modestly, insurers fear that Congress could change the rules later, opening it up to all people and setting take-it-or-leave payments for hospitals and medical providers.

For the same reason, employer groups also remain wary. Big companies don't want to lose control of their health care budgets and instead have the government send them a tax bill.

"That cost is going to come back to you one way or another ... and it's coming back in the way of taxes and liabilities," said Eastman Kodak's chief executive, Antonio M.

Perez, speaking for the Business Roundtable. "We just don't believe that there are miracles out there." If Congress passes a public plan that's not much of a sensation, Demoerats might have reason to regret all the time and energy they invested in it.

What's all the fuss about? After all the noise over Democrats' push for a government insurance plan to compete with private carriers, coverage numbers are finally in: Two percent. That's the estimated share of Americans younger than 65 who would sign up for the public option plan under the health care bill that Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, is steering toward House approval.

The underwhelming statistic is raising questions about whether the government plan will be the iron-fisted competitor that private insurers warn will shut them down or a niche operator that becomes a haven for patients with health insurance horror stories.

Some experts are wondering if lawmakers have wasted too much time arguing about the public plan, giving shod shrift to basics such as ensuring that new coverage will be affordable.

"The public option is a significant issue, but its place in the debate is completely out of proportion to its actual importance to consumers," said Drew Altman, president of the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation. "It has sucked all the oxygen out of the room and diverted attention from bread-and-butter consumer issues,

Insurers not buying budget office view

such as affordable coverage and comprehensive beneilts." The Democratic health care bills would extend coverage to the uninsured by providing government help with premiums and prohibiting insurers from excluding people in poor health or charging them more.

But to keep from piling more on the federal delicit, most of the uninsured will have to wait until 2013 for help.

Even then, many will have to pay a signilicant share of their own health care costs.

The latest look at the public option comes from the Congressional Budget Office, the nonpartisan economic analysts for lawmakers.

It found that the scaled-back government plan in the House bill wouldn't overtake private health insurance. To the contrary, it might help the insurers a little.

The budget office estimated that about 6 million people would sign up for the public option in 2019, when the House bill is fully phased in.

That represents about 2 percent of a total of 282 million Americans younger than 65. (Older people are covered through Medicare.) The overwhelming majority of the population would remain in private health insurance plans sponsored by employers. Others, mainly low-income people, would be covered through an expanded Medicaid program.

To be fair, most people would not have access to the new public plan.

Under the House bill, it would be offered through new insurance exchanges open only to those who buy coverage on their own or work for small companies. Yet even within that pool of 30 million people, only 1 in 5 would take the public option.

Who's likely to sign up? The budget office said "a less healthy pool of enrollees" would probably be attracted to the public option, drawn by the prospect of looser rules on access to specialists and medical services.

As a result, premiums in the public plan would be higher than the average for private plans. That could nudge heakhy middle-class workers and their families to sign up for private plans.

"'lle concem was that the public option would destabilize the bulk of private insurance, but in fact what Congress has fashioned is very targeted," said economist Karen Davis, president of the Commonwealth Fund. "It's not going to be taking away the insurance industry's core business." It's unclear whether there are enough votes in the Senate for a public plan. The version that Majority Irader Han·y Reid, D-Nev., has offered would let states opt out, probably leaving a smaller plan than the House would want.

Insurers aren't buying the budget office analysis. Asked if it might soften that opposition, industry spokesman Robert Zirkelbach of America's Health Insurance Plans responded with a curt "No." While a government plan might start out modestly, insurers fear that Congress could change the rules later, opening it up to all people and setting take-it-or-leave payments for hospitals and medical providers.

For the same reason, employer groups also remain wary. Big companies don't want to lose control of their health care budgets and instead have the government send them a tax bill.

"That cost is going to come back to you one way or another ... and it's coming back in the way of taxes and liabilities," said Eastman Kodak's chief executive, Antonio M.

Perez, speaking for the Business Roundtable. "We just don't believe that there are miracles out there." If Congress passes a public plan that's not much of a sensation, Demoerats might have reason to regret all the time and energy they invested in it.

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